Retribution Paladin Trinkets
Best for Patch 3.3
The Top 10 Trinkets for a Ret Pally have finally left Darkmoon Card: Greatness behind. With new trinkets in ToGC, we finally were able to start switching out our DM card. Now, we have trinekts that can just leave it in the dust. About time.
My previous Ret Paladin trinket post was a bit misleading, particularly because it was based off my own personal Rawr scores. I had a very poor trinket (Mirror of Truth) still equipped, so the priorities were a bit skewed.
With a little help from Rawr, BiS gear lists, and Elitist Jerks, I now give you the top 10 trinkets for a Ret Pally.
- [Tiny Abomination in a Jar Heroic]
- [Tiny Abomination in a Jar]
- [Death’s ChoiceHeroic]
- [Whispering Fanged Skull Heroic]
- [Death’s Choice]
- [Deathbringer’s Will Heroic]
- [Whispering Fanged Skull]
- [Herkuml’s War Token]
- [Deathbringer’s Will]
- [Darkmoon Card: Greatness]
Tiny Abomination in a Jar?
Tiny Abomination in a Jar is a deceptively great trinket, because it ramps up and scales very well with Ret Paladin melee DPS and rotations. It is possible to generate 5 motes on one single melee swing due to seal proccing, so that instant 50% damage will come fast and often.
what new trinkets in togc?
Trinkets such as Death’s Choice.
i just dont get how deathbringers will regular can be sooo low on the list D: well im currently using it and whispering fanged skull so if you take out heroic mode stuff that gives you 3 and 5th best trinkets 😀
Simply because the armor pen is such a low stat for us.
well so is haste khor, and the proc on deathbringer’s will is awesome, 600 str/700 crit/700 haste, is it really worse than the herkuml’s war token?
The list is from Elitist Jerks, based on their testing of the trinkets. I tend to agree with the logic, because the passive stats that are always active on the other trinkets tend to outweigh DBW. That’s not to say DBW is a bad trinket…if it’s an upgrade, likely it is a huge one for some Ret Pallies. Testing just has the other trinkets working out better for DPS in the long run. If I didn’t buy Herkuml’s, I definitely would have been rolling on DBW to replace my Mirror of Truth 🙂
Hey Khor, first of all great website! its been really helpful to me. I just had one question. How come [Herkuml’s War Token] is so great? the attack power buff only stacks up by white dps and rets prefer slow slow 2h weapons. I would say it would take around 20-30 seconds to get a full stack of 20. Is it good simply because of the 153 haste that it comes with? please help 🙂
indeed pretty helpful website, after i get my 4 set i’ll probably be saving the 60 emblems for herkuml’s, i’ve been trying for Death’s verdict for ages, EVEYRONE needs it and it barely ever drops, i’m still stuck with mark of supremacy with hit rating on it that i dont even need, but at least I have whispering fanged skull =)
Ok I need some assistance. I just got the [Tiny Abomination in a Jar] trinket. What is the deal with this trinket?????? I used to have the [Mark of Supremacy]. I used to macro my wings and [Mark of Supremacy] together on every CD. This alone would boost my DPS every 2 min. Its really cool to be 6th on DPS charts in the middle of the fight and then pop wings and trinket and be # 1 and stay that way ;). Now that I have this new trinket [Tiny Abomination in a Jar] I’m kinda gonna miss my [Mark of Supremacy]. ;( But I hear that [Tiny Abomination in a Jar] is the best trinket for RET pally’s.
Also I have the Bryntroll, the Bone Arbiter, does this proc work well with this trinket or would it be better to get another weapon? I now about the nerf and it really sucks. Is there a better 264 weapon in ICC or should I just get Shawdow’s Edge?
Strange my Rawr saiz that best trinkets for me are Death’s choice and Whispering fanged skull tiny abomination is on the end of the list i’ve got Rawr ver2.3.10 here is my profile http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Ahn'Qiraj&cn=Branaepmoran (dont look on my hit im prepared to swtich to bryntroll as soon as i get it 🙂
One thing regarding rawr 2.3.10 best trinket for me are DC and WFS on 2 first places heroic versions on 2 next non hc versions Tiny abomibation is listed far on the end of the list here u have link to my char http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Ahn'Qiraj&cn=Branaepmoran
(dont look on my hit im preparing to switch to bryntroll as sonn i get it)
Is it even possible ? You cant have both hc WFS trinkets atleast.. Since it says ” You can only equip 1 item in the Whispering fanged skull category “
Tiny Abom is BiS by far
Tiny abom beats Heroic DC
The reason it is best in slot is because you gain motes of seal procs and melee attacks and manifest anger cause a seal proc giving you more motes and so on.
The ap and the proc of Heroic DC is not going to beat 50% (around 2000 dmg) every about 10-15 sec.
Also it doesn’t matter if you go over hit cap, this trinket is BiS by for.
Hi i have the nobles deck but i am unsure if should sell it or use it. i am currently using mark of supremacy and needle encrusted scorpion.
Hey Mythh, Darkmoon Card: Greatness is far better than either of the two trinkets you mentioned. If you plan on raiding, the DMCG trinket takes you well into ICC. If you are at hit cap without the MoS, then that’s losing some of its value already. Of course, if you are trying to save money for Cata, then selling the deck now would be optimal, because the lack of new raids and desire for many to stop gearing will cause prices to plummet.
Question. Nice site, btw. I thought they nerfed TAiaJ. They certainly nerfed it HARD for rogues, which is what I played when ICC first came out. I’ve since returned to my main, ret in 25 just starting heroics and prot in 10s. We’ve been putting together our BiS lists.
Does TAiaJ still proc as strongly as it did before the nerf? Was it only rogues that saw the value of this trinket plummet?
ok
to tell u the truth
WFS normal vs hekumi (depends on fight)
hekumi pulls ahead on static fights (haste+ passive ap) vs crit(chance to proc damage)
i tested it out 2day on why on some fights me as a ret paladin lost out dps to my friend who is another ret paladin
we both have4 pc t10 + the same weapon (his trinkets are TAJ :same as mine) but his other trinket is greatness vs my WFS (on festergut i swaped out my WFS n bought a hekumi and i toped his damage done by a lot more on heroic festergut
so depends on fights if you have issues on damage done.. the trinkets might be a key determinate factor for a increase in DPS
I really don’t think Herkuml’s War Token is better than Darkmoon Greatness. In fact, Darkmoon must be way higher DPS than Herkuml’s War Token.
Here’s the math:
Herkuml’s War Token’s stat: 153 haste rating is 153*8.56 DPS/10 haste rating=125.76 DPS
Darkmoon Greatness: 90 STR * 1.15 STR talent = 104 STR is 104 * ( 13.22 DPS /10 STR ) = 137.488 DPS
So that makes the stat dps comparison similar.
For Darkmoon Greatness, tHe debuff stays up all the time assuming you are always hitting.
300 STR(*1.15 with talent)= 345 STR = 690 AP
Herkuml’s War Token has 17 AP*20 debuffs=340 AP after ramp up time, which is way less than 600 AP from Darkmoon’s Greatness’s 690 AP.
Hey guys ,
I respect those ppl in EJ for their testing , and their effort , but What matters that we need to look on Ret and the spells themselves , then we can know if DBW is good for Rets or not.
Arp needs phy.s Dmg Mainly to do its Purpose , but if u look at the rotation that a Ret uses :
CS-DS-judg-Consecration-Exorcism-HW – HoW when boss is < 20% HP.
now; judg-Consecration-Exorcism-HW – HoW when boss is < 20% HP, these spells are considered a Holy – Magic dmg . no profit from DBW.
For CS , DS they depend on wep dmg , which is considered to be Phy.s Dmg , which is benefitable from Arp.
Hey ,
One more thing that I forgot to mention which is that DBW gives you 700 haste rate for 30 secs , imagine the DS proc rest / Crit is usable and it’s good for rets , as well as the str.
Thanks.
deciding if the Herkuml’s War Token is better then greatness, right not im using heroic WFS and greatness, but need some help on deciding what trinket is better then the other
@ Phobia – If you have at least 2 T10, then you want WFS and HWT. If you do not have your 2 T10 yet, go with the DMCG and WFS. Haste and 2 T10 go hand in hand, and you’ll get the most benefit from that stat when your Divine Storm procs are up and running.
whoever says that Greatnes is better then Herkuml should go to dummy and test both for at least 50 fights each. Herkuml is one of the best trinkets for retri which you should wear + any second from top 3 in my opi.. personally id pick deaths verdict heroic.
and btw i wish to test Tiny.. hopefully some day.
This information is not incorrect (4.0.1)
BiS trinkets are:
DBW HC
STS HC
DBW
STS
War Token
@ Dreverda – We’re on the same page, I’m actually working on that list right now. 🙂
Sweet, looking forward to seeing what you would recommend.
very fine this list i use tiny and death choice very usefull in pve and pvp in horde death proccs always ofc =P and tiny procs all the time easy to make good dps arround 18k 😀