Comments on: Why Haste is our Worst Stat /why-haste-is-worst-stat/ A WoW Retribution Paladin guide with ret pally gear, leveling, pvp, raiding and stats. Retribution Paladins for World of Warcraft. Sun, 05 May 2013 07:52:44 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.6.2 By: Viciouspen /why-haste-is-worst-stat/comment-page-1/#comment-12443 Thu, 24 Mar 2011 09:29:52 +0000 /?p=4123#comment-12443 Let me add something else.

i think part of the problem is that Haste in fact can’t really be “charted” the way you guys want an attribute to be, which is part of why it’s discounted. Ret paladins end up having now so much to do with random procs that its hard to chart.
I’m not saying this traditional build is bad at all, just that I have a hard time trusting this kind of advice when there’s so many giant holes in the reasoning.

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By: Viciouspen /why-haste-is-worst-stat/comment-page-1/#comment-12442 Thu, 24 Mar 2011 09:21:52 +0000 /?p=4123#comment-12442 I have one major problem with your thought process here.
You’ve left one giant hole that you haven’t considered inreference to Divine Purpose and Procs in general (art of war).

More haste will actually give you more chances to proc Divine purpose.
Haste gives you added chances to proc Art of war.

Divine purpose doesn’t…..disqualify haste the way you’re describing it, it actually can, in theory, factor it in.

I see this reasoning all the time.
On my Ret paladin, i kept getting haste stuff, so i thought, alright, let’s see what happens. I’ve been topping the DPS charts on heroics and raids over the ret paladins using this “traditional” build very consistently. Some of these guys have better gear than I do. My haste build is beating them in DPS. These aren’t randoms, these are people I get to run with time and time again, and time and time again, their build built off this mechanic falls below mine.

I started trying haste as an experiment, and now, I’m thinking there are at least possibly things you haven’t taken into account at all.

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By: Bonesmashr /why-haste-is-worst-stat/comment-page-1/#comment-11492 Sat, 26 Feb 2011 19:20:52 +0000 /?p=4123#comment-11492 yea but haste increases the amount of regular weapon swings. Your Regular weapon strikes are what procs divine purpose and art of war. Therefore the more fast weapon strikes, the more chances you have at getting these procs. So even tho it doesnt help your cooldown abilities, these faster weapon strikes allow several more divine purposes’ and art of wars. so overall you’re getting in several more big attacks

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By: blowwings /why-haste-is-worst-stat/comment-page-1/#comment-11061 Tue, 15 Feb 2011 18:40:22 +0000 /?p=4123#comment-11061 and one more thing Crushing Weight is a beast tinket to have because i u reforge everything to crit and mastery and the haste proc on the trinket which is very often imagine all the damage ur doing and how fast ur pulling it its amazing how much dps u will be doing but just becareful with this combination u have to know how to use hand of salvation because uw ill pull aggro when ur doing 29 k dps and ur temp verdict is hitting 72k like mine is been hitting lately.. i been reading threw every ret aplly siite and putting all the info together and i juts created a beast lol

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By: blowwings /why-haste-is-worst-stat/comment-page-1/#comment-11058 Tue, 15 Feb 2011 18:29:50 +0000 /?p=4123#comment-11058 i am proud to say i am dps machine i am always number 1 or 2 in the dps charts and i love it i could pull from 19k to 26k dps and i ahve everything crit and mastery.. just make sure u have a good amount of crit because that help alot with the mastery.. i am number 2 ret pally in my server and not even the number 1 ret pally is pulling dps like i am..

check out my gear here
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/tichondrius/blowwings/simple

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By: bano /why-haste-is-worst-stat/comment-page-1/#comment-11028 Mon, 14 Feb 2011 23:24:57 +0000 /?p=4123#comment-11028 Would delete my previous comment if i could!

just checked out a really good raiding ret pally in my guild (my competitor) and just saw his crit to haste ratio around 2:1. can safely say i have some reforging to do now. pretty excited to pick up some more dps!

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By: bano /why-haste-is-worst-stat/comment-page-1/#comment-11024 Mon, 14 Feb 2011 20:25:43 +0000 /?p=4123#comment-11024 hey guys, about haste. i read it affected your seal of truth DOT damage. not sure if this is true or not, but i was under the impression to sort of balance your crit to haste ratings. I’d Think it would affect your Guardian too, no?

with my haste within the % range of my crit (but stacking mastery and str) i’m usually finding myself in the top 3 of the damage meters.

(http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/dunemaul/bano/advanced)

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By: Shogan /why-haste-is-worst-stat/comment-page-1/#comment-10952 Sat, 12 Feb 2011 10:02:48 +0000 /?p=4123#comment-10952 Do not forget about the set pieces either.

T11 2set Bonus – Increases the damage done by your Templar’s Verdict ability by 10%.
T11 4set Bonus – Your Inquisition ability’s duration is calculated as if you had one additional Holy Power.

That 4Set bonus is looking mighty tasty right about now. With a slower ramp up time to get a 3 stack HoPo, using 1 will net you a 20 sec Inquisition and using 2 will be a full 3HoPo TV hit. Overall this is going to be a HUGE amount of our DPS especially with these changes to Mastery.

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By: Varrex /why-haste-is-worst-stat/comment-page-1/#comment-10949 Sat, 12 Feb 2011 08:46:09 +0000 /?p=4123#comment-10949 @ Mcblue,

You should see some vast dps improvements the more mastery you stack around 14% and higher as its a flat increase to CS and TV damage… As mentioned before by Khor, haste is by far the worst stat atm I would suggest looking at replacements threw heroics and rep (hyjal betl) to replace the haste stacked gear…

If you could pick up the right eye heroic it is a nice dps increase and extra hit is always nice cause you can always reforge what you dont need.. Crit is nice but it takes so much to get a decent increase i would suggest mastery vs crit unless the gear has mastery and crit… Also if you have the gold to pick up landslide is very nice if not get avalanche…

Here is my link feel free to check it out ill have t legs in 2 days… http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/stormscale/varrex/simple

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By: Brock /why-haste-is-worst-stat/comment-page-1/#comment-10934 Fri, 11 Feb 2011 20:28:45 +0000 /?p=4123#comment-10934 Love the new changes. Just like in WOTLK I rock the charts. I’m a beast once again!

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