Comments on: Top 10 Common Ret Paladin Mistakes /top-10-common-ret-paladin-mistakes/ A WoW Retribution Paladin guide with ret pally gear, leveling, pvp, raiding and stats. Retribution Paladins for World of Warcraft. Sun, 18 Sep 2011 17:18:29 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: ron /top-10-common-ret-paladin-mistakes/comment-page-1/#comment-9631 ron Mon, 17 Jan 2011 08:04:25 +0000 /?p=2631#comment-9631 so what is the update now with cata? i see these posts where made befoe it came out.. does all this what has been said still apply? so what is the update now with cata? i see these posts where made befoe it came out.. does all this what has been said still apply?

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By: Lustmoord /top-10-common-ret-paladin-mistakes/comment-page-1/#comment-5240 Lustmoord Thu, 14 Oct 2010 02:08:33 +0000 /?p=2631#comment-5240 Patch 4.0.1 'Reset'. Glyphs have been divided amongst alt talent tree specs. In my case the Major Glyphs are set against the Protection tree and the minor Glyph the ret tree. The Talent tree is now reduced to 36 points max. For those of us inhibited by work commitments, this is going to take some time to work through. Cheers Patch 4.0.1 ‘Reset’.
Glyphs have been divided amongst alt talent tree specs.
In my case the Major Glyphs are set against the Protection tree and the minor Glyph the ret tree.
The Talent tree is now reduced to 36 points max.

For those of us inhibited by work commitments, this is going to take some time to work through.

Cheers

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By: Khor /top-10-common-ret-paladin-mistakes/comment-page-1/#comment-5056 Khor Sun, 10 Oct 2010 14:50:40 +0000 /?p=2631#comment-5056 @ Malachi - The 11/5/55 build is not wrong. If a player chooses to deviate from that, that is their perogative. But Intellect is a valuable asset for many players compared to extra heals on Flash of Light (which shouldn't be used ideally if your healers are up to par), and a reduction in fear and disorient. When you think about DPS and talent specs for PvE, you have to think of terms of boss fights. How often are we really feared/disoriented in ICC and ToC? Not even remotely enough to justify giving up intellect. I respect if a player wants to take other talent points, but overall, the 11/5/55 spec I have listed is the optimal set-up. Now, if a player wants to PvP and PvE with the same spec, then of course, those other two talents might take priority. But in a raid situation, when your main focus is tackling bosses, you will want the Intellect on your side. @ Malachi – The 11/5/55 build is not wrong. If a player chooses to deviate from that, that is their perogative. But Intellect is a valuable asset for many players compared to extra heals on Flash of Light (which shouldn’t be used ideally if your healers are up to par), and a reduction in fear and disorient.

When you think about DPS and talent specs for PvE, you have to think of terms of boss fights. How often are we really feared/disoriented in ICC and ToC? Not even remotely enough to justify giving up intellect.

I respect if a player wants to take other talent points, but overall, the 11/5/55 spec I have listed is the optimal set-up.

Now, if a player wants to PvP and PvE with the same spec, then of course, those other two talents might take priority. But in a raid situation, when your main focus is tackling bosses, you will want the Intellect on your side.

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By: Malachi /top-10-common-ret-paladin-mistakes/comment-page-1/#comment-5046 Malachi Thu, 07 Oct 2010 16:44:58 +0000 /?p=2631#comment-5046 Also, your 11/5/55 build is wrong. You should be taking the other two tier 2 talents in holy, not divine intellect. In a raid setting if you're having mana issues you are doing it wrong. Also, your 11/5/55 build is wrong.

You should be taking the other two tier 2 talents in holy, not divine intellect.

In a raid setting if you’re having mana issues you are doing it wrong.

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By: Malachi /top-10-common-ret-paladin-mistakes/comment-page-1/#comment-5045 Malachi Thu, 07 Oct 2010 16:43:19 +0000 /?p=2631#comment-5045 5/7/59 is a viable PVE build that provides no DPS loss at all. In fact it's used by many of the top rets in the world. 5/7/59 is a viable PVE build that provides no DPS loss at all. In fact it’s used by many of the top rets in the world.

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By: Joe /top-10-common-ret-paladin-mistakes/comment-page-1/#comment-4887 Joe Thu, 30 Sep 2010 22:07:52 +0000 /?p=2631#comment-4887 why waste badges on t10 when we will be in much more better gear why waste badges on t10 when we will be in much more better gear

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By: paladin /top-10-common-ret-paladin-mistakes/comment-page-1/#comment-4345 paladin Sun, 05 Sep 2010 05:59:21 +0000 /?p=2631#comment-4345 I have 66 frosts and enough for my first t10. You said usually the first two t10 you get are gloves and shoulders because they are the cheapest but I have t9 in both those slots I don't have t9 in my head or leg slots because I got decent drops that were fine substitutes in my opinion and made it not worth the triumphs to buy just a slight upgrade in those slots. My question is if I should get t10 asap an buy the the shoulders or gloves, replacing conquest gear,(I have 3 t9 now so I can replace one an still have 2 set bonus) or save up more frosts and buy the legs or helm when I can giving me a higher gear score/dps boost. I have 66 frosts and enough for my first t10. You said usually the first two t10 you get are gloves and shoulders because they are the cheapest but I have t9 in both those slots I don’t have t9 in my head or leg slots because I got decent drops that were fine substitutes in my opinion and made it not worth the triumphs to buy just a slight upgrade in those slots. My question is if I should get t10 asap an buy the the shoulders or gloves, replacing conquest gear,(I have 3 t9 now so I can replace one an still have 2 set bonus) or save up more frosts and buy the legs or helm when I can giving me a higher gear score/dps boost.

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By: Regan /top-10-common-ret-paladin-mistakes/comment-page-1/#comment-4290 Regan Wed, 01 Sep 2010 14:22:09 +0000 /?p=2631#comment-4290 About the Wrong Talent Spec part, I had started my pally as a Tank, and only switched to Ret when I hit about level 72, just to play around with that side of the character class and I have been loving it. Will hit 80 later today, so everything in this blog is a real help. I am not talent spec'ed as you have listed, and I have switched around my talent tree twice now already as I listened to what other people had to say, but I am not locked into one of the two you have listed above. So my question is, should I spend the gold to change my talents a 3rd time, or just wait for Cat, as this will all be changing anyway. And if you think I should drop the gold and make the changes in my talent tree, which one of the two above do you use? BTW, this is a great site, I like your writing style, I have been reading your Solo adventures, and I am looking forward to those days for my pally as well. Regan About the Wrong Talent Spec part, I had started my pally as a Tank, and only switched to Ret when I hit about level 72, just to play around with that side of the character class and I have been loving it. Will hit 80 later today, so everything in this blog is a real help. I am not talent spec’ed as you have listed, and I have switched around my talent tree twice now already as I listened to what other people had to say, but I am not locked into one of the two you have listed above. So my question is, should I spend the gold to change my talents a 3rd time, or just wait for Cat, as this will all be changing anyway.
And if you think I should drop the gold and make the changes in my talent tree, which one of the two above do you use?

BTW, this is a great site, I like your writing style, I have been reading your Solo adventures, and I am looking forward to those days for my pally as well.
Regan

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By: Tyler /top-10-common-ret-paladin-mistakes/comment-page-1/#comment-4286 Tyler Wed, 01 Sep 2010 04:53:24 +0000 /?p=2631#comment-4286 So no matter what for gems you should have almost all gem slots with ruby cardinal? So no matter what for gems you should have almost all gem slots with ruby cardinal?

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By: Khor /top-10-common-ret-paladin-mistakes/comment-page-1/#comment-4275 Khor Tue, 31 Aug 2010 05:04:12 +0000 /?p=2631#comment-4275 @ Melusine - For ICC raiders, if you can't reach the expertise cap, shoot for a range of 18-25. Falling somewhere in this area (with SoV glyph) shouldn't hinder your DPS too much. @ Melusine – For ICC raiders, if you can’t reach the expertise cap, shoot for a range of 18-25. Falling somewhere in this area (with SoV glyph) shouldn’t hinder your DPS too much.

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