Comments on: Retribution Hybrid Healing Nerfs? /retribution-hybrid-healing-nerfs/ A WoW Retribution Paladin guide with ret pally gear, leveling, pvp, raiding and stats. Retribution Paladins for World of Warcraft. Sun, 05 Aug 2012 01:21:48 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: Valiant Slayer /retribution-hybrid-healing-nerfs/comment-page-1/#comment-21155 Valiant Slayer Wed, 07 Sep 2011 17:24:45 +0000 /?p=4253#comment-21155 First iv got to say i'm and optimistic guy and don't give up easy, I love a challenge and don't mind dying but this, This Nerf is ridiculous! Most of my PVP experience is in 2s. The hardest team set up iv run across has been War/mage. I'm running Ret/rogue if we cant cc the mage in under 5 sec i'm dead. For several reasons. Mage will steal Avenging wrath every time and force me to hit like a kitten ><! First iv got to say i’m and optimistic guy and don’t give up easy, I love a challenge and don’t mind dying but this, This Nerf is ridiculous! Most of my PVP experience is in 2s. The hardest team set up iv run across has been War/mage. I’m running Ret/rogue if we cant cc the mage in under 5 sec i’m dead. For several reasons. Mage will steal Avenging wrath every time and force me to hit like a kitten ><!

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By: Cheyanne /retribution-hybrid-healing-nerfs/comment-page-1/#comment-18635 Cheyanne Sat, 23 Jul 2011 22:15:22 +0000 /?p=4253#comment-18635 Short, sweet, to the point, FREE-exactly as inforamotin should be! Short, sweet, to the point, FREE-exactly as inforamotin should be!

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By: Jimakoma /retribution-hybrid-healing-nerfs/comment-page-1/#comment-14485 Jimakoma Sat, 30 Apr 2011 16:23:18 +0000 /?p=4253#comment-14485 Hlo all, I just had 8/8 arena loses for the first time in my PVP history ;P listen to this because for me it's simply unacceptable! Keep in mind that I'm 33 y old have 3 kids and less and less play time... my 2v2 team is ret pally (me) with beast master hunter (my brother) I know it's not the ideal combination but with wog we were winning just fine! I had no problem with 20sec CD on wog until I confronted a dk 1v1 in arena and realized that he could heal 3x faster than me! While i was dueling i kept repeating in my head "this is simply futile" Then i dueled 1v1 with a worrior (arena)... 2x faster healing than me... a warrior outhealing a paladin... I play wow for 3 years now, never had such issues I'm average at PvP and I know my standing... this is simply stupid... Now that i think of it better, it just can't be, I must be doing something wrong... maybe a respec could help I don't know *confused* Hlo all, I just had 8/8 arena loses for the first time in my PVP history ;P

listen to this because for me it’s simply unacceptable! Keep in mind that I’m 33 y old have 3 kids and less and less play time…

my 2v2 team is ret pally (me) with beast master hunter (my brother) I know it’s not the ideal combination but with wog we were winning just fine!

I had no problem with 20sec CD on wog until I confronted a dk 1v1 in arena and realized that he could heal 3x faster than me! While i was dueling i kept repeating in my head “this is simply futile”
Then i dueled 1v1 with a worrior (arena)… 2x faster healing than me… a warrior outhealing a paladin… I play wow for 3 years now, never had such issues I’m average at PvP and I know my standing… this is simply stupid… Now that i think of it better, it just can’t be, I must be doing something wrong… maybe a respec could help I don’t know *confused*

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By: Sektual /retribution-hybrid-healing-nerfs/comment-page-1/#comment-14331 Sektual Wed, 27 Apr 2011 00:51:21 +0000 /?p=4253#comment-14331 Im in line with alot of people, that Ret is dead 4.1 unless u have a healer forsay 3s. I am full Vicious stacked resil and still take alot of damage im spending my HP on heals not dps. Dont get me wrong i love ret but at this point what is the point everything gets dispeled spellstolen purged or tranqed where if we are focused we spend our Zealotry on trying to heal or most of the time early bubble. Ok yea nerf the heals make up for it in something we dont have a MS, our CC isnt reliable. Im in line with alot of people, that Ret is dead 4.1 unless u have a healer forsay 3s. I am full Vicious stacked resil and still take alot of damage im spending my HP on heals not dps. Dont get me wrong i love ret but at this point what is the point everything gets dispeled spellstolen purged or tranqed where if we are focused we spend our Zealotry on trying to heal or most of the time early bubble. Ok yea nerf the heals make up for it in something we dont have a MS, our CC isnt reliable.

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By: pulse /retribution-hybrid-healing-nerfs/comment-page-1/#comment-12960 pulse Tue, 05 Apr 2011 01:50:47 +0000 /?p=4253#comment-12960 "So, I thought I’d give my spin on this answer, and I am curious what you PvPers think as well. To say it shortly, I agree with the response." And that's where I stopped reading your blog.... Life's too short to have retribution self flagellators to hold us all back... Or just admit you don't have a grasp of the situation because you don't pvp. “So, I thought I’d give my spin on this answer, and I am curious what you PvPers think as well.

To say it shortly, I agree with the response.”

And that’s where I stopped reading your blog…. Life’s too short to have retribution self flagellators to hold us all back… Or just admit you don’t have a grasp of the situation because you don’t pvp.

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By: Xav /retribution-hybrid-healing-nerfs/comment-page-1/#comment-12688 Xav Tue, 29 Mar 2011 18:07:51 +0000 /?p=4253#comment-12688 The problem is that we are bad at surviving in arenas and since killing the Paladin is the easiest kill we are usually focused and killed. WoG and SS are what can keep us alive to actually do something (usually get them to use their offensive CDs) nerfing WoG might have merit and the SS CD might be too short, but these are our only useful "defensive" abilities since all the others can be and are easily dispelled or shattered. PvE wise it doesn't really matter but PvP wise it changes everything. If they wanted to down rank our survivility they should have picked one (WoG or SS) but not both. The good thing about this is that I can have one PvE/PvP Ret spec and one PvE tank spec for instant queue now! The problem is that we are bad at surviving in arenas and since killing the Paladin is the easiest kill we are usually focused and killed. WoG and SS are what can keep us alive to actually do something (usually get them to use their offensive CDs) nerfing WoG might have merit and the SS CD might be too short, but these are our only useful “defensive” abilities since all the others can be and are easily dispelled or shattered.

PvE wise it doesn’t really matter but PvP wise it changes everything. If they wanted to down rank our survivility they should have picked one (WoG or SS) but not both. The good thing about this is that I can have one PvE/PvP Ret spec and one PvE tank spec for instant queue now!

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By: Rodradin /retribution-hybrid-healing-nerfs/comment-page-1/#comment-12521 Rodradin Fri, 25 Mar 2011 14:46:55 +0000 /?p=4253#comment-12521 As of now i don't do that much pvp, but when i do i really can see this nerf destroying ret in pvp once more. Many times in 2v2 for example you focus more on healing yourself and your team mate just because other classes dps output is ridicilously high and your survivability is slim to none. By adding such long cooldown to WoG their gonna make ret survivability so low that it's either go holy or don't pvp once more. Don't suppose you'll be seeing many rets in the 2.3k+ department anymore after this. As of now i don’t do that much pvp, but when i do i really can see this nerf destroying ret in pvp once more.
Many times in 2v2 for example you focus more on healing yourself and your team mate just because other
classes dps output is ridicilously high and your survivability is slim to none.

By adding such long cooldown to WoG their gonna make ret survivability so low that it’s either go holy or don’t pvp once more. Don’t suppose you’ll be seeing many rets in the 2.3k+ department anymore after this.

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By: Not Disclosed /retribution-hybrid-healing-nerfs/comment-page-1/#comment-12484 Not Disclosed Fri, 25 Mar 2011 02:24:19 +0000 /?p=4253#comment-12484 Long time reader of your site. Always loved it. Check on it most days. This is the first time I have felt the dire need to comment. The new layout - TERRIBLE. Please change it back. If you aren't happy with the last one revert to the set up before. Both fantastic compared to this rubbish. Please. Long time reader of your site. Always loved it. Check on it most days. This is the first time I have felt the dire need to comment. The new layout – TERRIBLE. Please change it back. If you aren’t happy with the last one revert to the set up before. Both fantastic compared to this rubbish. Please.

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By: Amoralen /retribution-hybrid-healing-nerfs/comment-page-1/#comment-12481 Amoralen Fri, 25 Mar 2011 02:08:22 +0000 /?p=4253#comment-12481 Khor, I agree that you want to be dishing out the damage. And I agree that Sefless healer had to be nerfed. The better question is why are Rets having to use WoG to heal themselves so much? Our mitigation is awful right now. I do TB, BG's and 2v2. And I can tell you that I use WoG only on my self 80% heals over TV because I have to. Simply put when we get focused we go down - and very quickly. And what about the nerf to Sacred Shield? Why? I want to stay positive and upbeat, and I'm not nearly as concerned on the PVE side of things. but Ret will be dead in PVP next patch. Khor,

I agree that you want to be dishing out the damage. And I agree that Sefless healer had to be nerfed. The better question is why are Rets having to use WoG to heal themselves so much?

Our mitigation is awful right now. I do TB, BG’s and 2v2. And I can tell you that I use WoG only on my self 80% heals over TV because I have to. Simply put when we get focused we go down – and very quickly.

And what about the nerf to Sacred Shield? Why? I want to stay positive and upbeat, and I’m not nearly as concerned on the PVE side of things. but Ret will be dead in PVP next patch.

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