Comments on: Ret Paladin Gems 4.0.1 Quick Info

By: Faelionys

Faelionys — Thu, 23 Dec 2010 20:32:42 +0000

This Rotation is working out really well for me.

So the idea is to spread the total amount of dmg by not using ZEAL and AW at the same time.

-cast Zealotry as soon as it becomes available and then do CS+TV until ZEAL is down.
-cast AW and spam HOW all the time , CS+TV is still top priority during your rotation

consider this first:

1.if the target is at mid range start w/judgement
2.cast Exorcism only w/art of war
3.you can CAST ZEALOTRY as soon as Templar Veridict is shinning

Rotation 1: CS>EX>CS>EX>CS>ZEAL>CS>TV [SPAM TV until ZEAL is over]
or or
JDG JDG
CONS CONS

As soon as ZEAL vanishes…

Avenging Wrath>HOW>Rotation1 [HOW next on priority list after TV and before EX}

In terms of zealotry, now that the skill doesn’t actually take away the three points of holy power, I prefer hitting Inquisition right after zealotry, meaning a lot more bang for the buck. Also, while it does make sense to keep spamming cs and tv, some, including me, feel you should still pop off with any AoW Exorcism that pops up during zealotry. Because I prefer not having Zealotry, Avenging Wrath, and Guardian up at the same time, I agree for the most part with the listed rotation for Avenging Wrath. The only exception I could think of is where massive damage is needed quickly (ie Heroic Siamat, Lost City). For these moments, I try not to use all three, preferring to team up avenging wrath and zealotry and then follow with guardian. The new priority that I follow for Avenging Wrath + Zealotry is

CS > Inq (only right after zealotry) > TV > AoW Exo > HoW.

I know that many prefer HoW over AoW exo, but the dot from glyph and the initial damage with Inquisition and Avenging Wrath makes it a better choice in terms of priority.

By: Ordainedelf

Ordainedelf — Wed, 01 Dec 2010 17:39:27 +0000

Greetings, I’m having an issue with gemming my ret pal. From what I’ve read in this (thank you very much btw) I am gemming strength. But the meta requirements for Relentless Earthseigh are more blue then red gems with 1 yellow. If you have more red slots then blue by far, how do you meet the requirements of the meta? I’m stacking 20 str, i’m hit capped, very low on the expertise cap.

In short, more blue then red = lot less strength. Any help would be great!

By: Brootall

Brootall — Sat, 13 Nov 2010 19:27:35 +0000

Nice article. It’s nice to see i won’t have to gem strength in every socket like in wotlk. There seems to be a lot of thought process in it now. Reforging should solve having too much/too little hit, which is awesome

By: Del

Del — Wed, 03 Nov 2010 17:34:07 +0000

Question… maybe outside the box but what about intell ? I’m sure most people will scoff at that for ret but is it worth staking up intell for added spell power on judgments,excorsism holy wrath,and that new one that spreads Aoe damage for upto 10 targets (4.0.1) .. WHICH btw if you cast on a single target with no one else around they get the full jolt. It’s a nice 3.5k-4.2k instant hit at lvl 70 .

Also, Stacking Intell could also be useful for certain PVP roles in WSG/EOS such as FC,assisting/bodygaurding the FC or swing shifting to Flag D with 3-4 others; ESPECIALLY, when blending it with with overflow talents in holy tree such as protector of the innocent. what’s you’re thoughts ? I am really asking cause i don’t know if anyone has calculated the benefits of socketing intel yet on ret for purpose of added spell power for the above forementioned spells (holy wrath, judgments etc). If they have i’m sure i haven’t seen the post…. me personally I am spell heavy in my ret fighting style. I mean after all, pally is a HYBRID class… right ? Plus, if you roll with the brutal glad set for rets at lvl 70 (which already has high strenght in it) AND you’re also kicking out nasty spell damage and self heals for survivabilty ftw pwnage!

PS >>
I know this intell idea may cause shock waves with a bunch of players but but im a lvl 70 ret pally ranking top 3′s overall in damage against 79′s in 70-79bracket (who score 600k) in bg so stfu jk

By: Lenlaar

Lenlaar — Wed, 27 Oct 2010 02:00:53 +0000

Would it be reasonable to match the blue sockets with the new purple gems (10str/10hit), and even if you are over hit capped, can still reforge the excess hit into haste or crit?

By: Rossain

Rossain — Tue, 26 Oct 2010 03:37:58 +0000

but what abt gemmin with sumthing like Gendarme’s Cuirass? should u gem for socket bonus?+8 strength.

By: Khor

Khor — Sun, 24 Oct 2010 17:02:42 +0000

@ Me – maxdps.com is a good referral source, but it ultimately doesn’t factor in anything else in terms of stats, gear, etc. It’s baseline DPS. We have to be careful when checking there. Sometimes they are right, other times they are not

By: Me

Me — Sun, 24 Oct 2010 12:09:41 +0000

Chaotic Skyflare Diamond as metagem is better. Check maxdps.com

By: Kazarian

Kazarian — Mon, 18 Oct 2010 16:12:37 +0000

I believe Relentless is still better due to it scaling off Kings and similar buffs (like the stacking MotW and Drums) but I’ve not done precise calculations on the matter.

By: Seph

Seph — Sun, 17 Oct 2010 12:31:34 +0000

Hi, just wanted to say thanks for your website and all you do to figure everything out with these 4.x patches.

I’ve been avoiding dealing with my gems, but I guess today I’ll try and figure them out. I did notice my libram suddenly has a red socket, so – yay!

Haste is still very foggy to me atm, but by your formula on another post, I think I’m okay for right now. But my latency fluctuates usually ~200ms while I’m on, and now I’m thinking maybe I should try to reforge more haste if I can, just to cover any gaps that open in the course of playing.

And more foggy than haste is my CSR. I know it’s important, and possibly right on the heels of haste, but I’m mostly foggy on how the two stats operate differently, if the end effect is still faster/harder/more.

Thanks friend!