Comments on: Ret Paladin BiS Pre-Raid Gear

By: d)fens

d)fens — Thu, 14 Oct 2010 12:06:15 +0000

As of 4.0.1 it is easier to get T10 pieces by just running heroics over and over. Wowhead says that both T9 and T10 set bonuses increase all damage done by 5%. Do those two bonuses stack together (I assume 2 T9 pieces and 2 T10 pieces). Is it worth to get such setup of maybe better idea would be to go full T10 (better overall stats)? I dinged 80 just before the patch and managed to buy T9 legs b4 my emblems were converted and I would prefer to keep them for a while…
Thank you for any help and great site BTW
If only I had known it earlier…

By: Khor

Khor — Sun, 19 Sep 2010 20:24:40 +0000

We need to be real careful not to dismiss gear with armor pen, just because it has armor pen. When players read sites like this, they see armor pen listed as our least desireable stat.

But in actuality, never have I said it’s a bad stat. Armor pen still benefits us, just not as much as the other stats do. The reason is because armor pen only affects 40-50% of our attacks since it applies to physical damage. The reason it is lower than haste or crit for us is because the other 50% of our damage is spell power.

That said, it still DOES provide benefit. When compared to other options, be careful not to immediately dismiss armor pen gear.

And the reason this gear is on the BiS pre-raid gear list is because they are the best options OUTSIDE of raiding. Don’t reject gear just because it has armor pen. You’re missing out on some good gear if you do that.

By: C.B.LB

C.B.LB — Sun, 19 Sep 2010 16:27:07 +0000

You know its this things u putted have Arm.Pen. palas with arm.pen. really suck you should better find some other things maybe 226 too with not arm.pen. and you ll do more dps on raids

By: Khor

Khor — Sat, 26 Jun 2010 04:50:02 +0000

On single targets, anywhere from 3000-4000 DPS. On trash and AoE, 3500-5000 (depending on number of mobs). Doing more than these numbers can easily be done, but I’d say those are par for this level of gear.

By: ARDuk

ARDuk — Fri, 25 Jun 2010 07:43:21 +0000

in this gear what dps should you be pulling off

By: Palinator

Palinator — Sun, 13 Jun 2010 00:09:40 +0000

Awesome, thanks very much. Keep up the good work helping the Retribution nation

By: Khor

Khor — Sat, 12 Jun 2010 22:14:46 +0000

Ah, the 245 emblem libram is what most Paladins take with them. The 264 emblem trinket is better, but it is dead last on the Paladin Frost Emblem priority list, so it is usually acquired after everything else.

By: Palinator

Palinator — Sat, 12 Jun 2010 21:28:15 +0000

Was just wondering what Libram would be used? great list btw

By: Boumxyz

Boumxyz — Thu, 03 Jun 2010 19:14:00 +0000

And for heroics you only need 214 hit rating instead of 263…

By: Boumxyz

Boumxyz — Thu, 03 Jun 2010 19:12:37 +0000

You only need 22 expertise for Heroics and you get 10 free from glyph seal of vengence.

so you need 12 more (without any racial).