Comments on: Ret Changes to Expect in Patch 4.0.6 /ret-changes-to-expect-in-patch-4-0-6/ A WoW Retribution Paladin guide with ret pally gear, leveling, pvp, raiding and stats. Retribution Paladins for World of Warcraft. Sun, 05 Aug 2012 01:21:48 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: Hudewey /ret-changes-to-expect-in-patch-4-0-6/comment-page-1/#comment-10270 Hudewey Fri, 28 Jan 2011 20:08:30 +0000 /?p=3954#comment-10270 Hi Khor Any idea when this patch goes live? Very anxious to see what the changes do :). Thanks. Hi Khor

Any idea when this patch goes live? Very anxious to see what the changes do :) . Thanks.

]]> By: Marko /ret-changes-to-expect-in-patch-4-0-6/comment-page-1/#comment-9760 Marko Fri, 21 Jan 2011 03:44:10 +0000 /?p=3954#comment-9760 This looks great for PVE but PVP is another issue. Mages and other casters continue to dominate. It is not a problem for a mage to freeze an entire raiding group in battlegrounds, and for another to do the same. Even as we gain in dps and damage, melee is going to get excluded and passed over for healers and casters. The preference appears to be deliberate, wanton and capricious. Good luck with the new skill set but unless other chages occur there will be continued and significant frustration in BG's and arenas from the crowd control and caster damage. I can't imagine if we were left in our present state. If you look at the 2v2, 3v3 and 5v5 ladder, you can rarely find a Ret Paladin in the first 100 teams! This looks great for PVE but PVP is another issue. Mages and other casters continue to dominate. It is not a problem for a mage to freeze an entire raiding group in battlegrounds, and for another to do the same. Even as we gain in dps and damage, melee is going to get excluded and passed over for healers and casters.

The preference appears to be deliberate, wanton and capricious. Good luck with the new skill set but unless other chages occur there will be continued and significant frustration in BG’s and arenas from the crowd control and caster damage. I can’t imagine if we were left in our present state. If you look at the 2v2, 3v3 and 5v5 ladder, you can rarely find a Ret Paladin in the first 100 teams!

]]> By: Randomdewd /ret-changes-to-expect-in-patch-4-0-6/comment-page-1/#comment-9724 Randomdewd Thu, 20 Jan 2011 06:13:47 +0000 /?p=3954#comment-9724 Posted by Rlimbaugh Is the new Mastery we have suppose to be affected by inquisition or not? Been wondering that since it was announced. Posted by Lylirra (blue) It is. There was a bug that was preventing this from occurring, though, but it should be resolved in the next PTR build. This means that Inquision goes back to the "base level" of mastery aka. 21% (16.8 * 1.3 = 21.84) And per point we are getting 2.73% per Mastery (2.1% * 1.3 = 2.73%) In net this makes as of now that Master is on top of Haste/Crit And also a little update on HoW: Posted by Samaul Hammer of Wrath damage has been nerfed by 50% on the 4.0.6 PTR. Posted by Lylirra (blue) This is actually a bug. A very non-excessive, non-stealthy bug. There was small coding change in the latest PTR build that caused Hammer of Wrath, a ranged ability, to use ranged attack power instead of melee attack power. The change itself was completely unintended and has since been corrected. Posted by Rlimbaugh
Is the new Mastery we have suppose to be affected by inquisition or not? Been wondering that since it was announced.

Posted by Lylirra (blue)
It is. There was a bug that was preventing this from occurring, though, but it should be resolved in the next PTR build.

This means that Inquision goes back to the “base level” of mastery aka. 21% (16.8 * 1.3 = 21.84)

And per point we are getting 2.73% per Mastery (2.1% * 1.3 = 2.73%)

In net this makes as of now that Master is on top of Haste/Crit

And also a little update on HoW:

Posted by Samaul
Hammer of Wrath damage has been nerfed by 50% on the 4.0.6 PTR.

Posted by Lylirra (blue)
This is actually a bug. A very non-excessive, non-stealthy bug. There was small coding change in the latest PTR build that caused Hammer of Wrath, a ranged ability, to use ranged attack power instead of melee attack power. The change itself was completely unintended and has since been corrected.

]]> By: Sith /ret-changes-to-expect-in-patch-4-0-6/comment-page-1/#comment-9695 Sith Wed, 19 Jan 2011 17:38:34 +0000 /?p=3954#comment-9695 It would have been nice to see a quicker cd on CS with this fix... feels real slow, like I'm watching the second hand on a clock tick around or something. Glad so see some kind of DPS boost though! So would it be safe to say for instance.. if CS is doing 135% wep damage & we get 16% extra from the base mastery 8% as holy...would we really be somewhere around 155%?....if so thats a helluva boost. It would have been nice to see a quicker cd on CS with this fix…
feels real slow, like I’m watching the second hand on a clock tick around or something. Glad so see some kind of DPS boost though!
So would it be safe to say for instance.. if CS is doing 135% wep damage & we get 16% extra from the base mastery 8% as holy…would we really be somewhere around 155%?….if so thats a helluva boost.

]]> By: Khor /ret-changes-to-expect-in-patch-4-0-6/comment-page-1/#comment-9693 Khor Wed, 19 Jan 2011 16:23:31 +0000 /?p=3954#comment-9693 I believe it is juts one socket. WOuld be nice if it had 2, though :) I believe it is juts one socket. WOuld be nice if it had 2, though :)

]]> By: pissette /ret-changes-to-expect-in-patch-4-0-6/comment-page-1/#comment-9690 pissette Wed, 19 Jan 2011 15:32:20 +0000 /?p=3954#comment-9690 Will the elementium deathplate get one or two sockets? Will the elementium deathplate get one or two sockets?

]]> By: Khor /ret-changes-to-expect-in-patch-4-0-6/comment-page-1/#comment-9686 Khor Wed, 19 Jan 2011 14:58:22 +0000 /?p=3954#comment-9686 @ Hudewey - The TB trinket will be MUCH better, but I don't think it will be top priority. I think top priority on trinkets will still belong to the +strength trinkets. The TB trinket should be a solid option until you can upgrade. @ Hudewey – The TB trinket will be MUCH better, but I don’t think it will be top priority. I think top priority on trinkets will still belong to the +strength trinkets. The TB trinket should be a solid option until you can upgrade.

]]> By: Hudewey /ret-changes-to-expect-in-patch-4-0-6/comment-page-1/#comment-9685 Hudewey Wed, 19 Jan 2011 13:20:07 +0000 /?p=3954#comment-9685 Hi Khor If mastery gets a boost with the patch, does the Baradin Warden's mastery trinket become a priority? I'm trying to best determine how to use Tol Barad tokens. Thanks. Hi Khor

If mastery gets a boost with the patch, does the Baradin Warden’s mastery trinket become a priority? I’m trying to best determine how to use Tol Barad tokens. Thanks.

]]> By: Agonus /ret-changes-to-expect-in-patch-4-0-6/comment-page-1/#comment-9676 Agonus Wed, 19 Jan 2011 04:38:44 +0000 /?p=3954#comment-9676 Hey, guys Just wanted to put out a discovery a guildmate of mine has made regarding reforging. He told me of an add-on, Reforginator, which help decide which stats to select when reforging. I've been using it, and it seems to know we need 8% Hit Rating and 26% Expertise and then tries to balance out Haste, Crit, and Mastery. So far it seems to be a big help. Has anyone else used it? If so, are there any problems with it that I may have been overlooking? Hey, guys

Just wanted to put out a discovery a guildmate of mine has made regarding reforging. He told me of an add-on, Reforginator, which help decide which stats to select when reforging. I’ve been using it, and it seems to know we need 8% Hit Rating and 26% Expertise and then tries to balance out Haste, Crit, and Mastery. So far it seems to be a big help. Has anyone else used it? If so, are there any problems with it that I may have been overlooking?

]]> By: Khor /ret-changes-to-expect-in-patch-4-0-6/comment-page-1/#comment-9672 Khor Tue, 18 Jan 2011 18:02:15 +0000 /?p=3954#comment-9672 @ Random - Yes, my guess is that Mastery WILL outweigh crit and haste, but 4.0.6 isn't live yet, so they could still make changes. They already nerfed HoL from 2.5% to 2.1%, so we'll see if the adjust it further :) @ Lykaon - The Deathplate is pretty much on par with the Justice Point chest (when gemmed correctly),. So my assumption is that, yes, the Deathplate will slightly edge out the JP chest once 4.0.6 goes live. @ Random – Yes, my guess is that Mastery WILL outweigh crit and haste, but 4.0.6 isn’t live yet, so they could still make changes. They already nerfed HoL from 2.5% to 2.1%, so we’ll see if the adjust it further :)

@ Lykaon – The Deathplate is pretty much on par with the Justice Point chest (when gemmed correctly),. So my assumption is that, yes, the Deathplate will slightly edge out the JP chest once 4.0.6 goes live.

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