Comments on: Patch 4.0.3a DPS Concerns /patch-4-0-3a-dps-concerns/ A WoW Retribution Paladin guide with ret pally gear, leveling, pvp, raiding and stats. Retribution Paladins for World of Warcraft. Thu, 02 Dec 2010 05:02:12 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Nytengale /patch-4-0-3a-dps-concerns/comment-page-1/#comment-7142 Nytengale Mon, 29 Nov 2010 23:27:21 +0000 /?p=3462#comment-7142 It is called Prot DPS from what I have seen. More Paladins are going to it saying it is better DPS than Ret. I am looking for better articles - I will post any Prot DPS spec I find. It is called Prot DPS from what I have seen. More Paladins are going to it saying it is better DPS than Ret. I am looking for better articles – I will post any Prot DPS spec I find.

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By: Khor /patch-4-0-3a-dps-concerns/comment-page-1/#comment-7098 Khor Sun, 28 Nov 2010 21:08:55 +0000 /?p=3462#comment-7098 @ Morphius - I have heard whispers (or maybe they were loud shouts) that tanks are doing some massive damage. I have tanked a few instances as Prot, and am getting equal or better DPS than as Ret. Its okay, though. Burst damage is still high, and should be fun to level with. If Ret DPS is a challenge at 85, it will be a welcome change :) @ Morphius – I have heard whispers (or maybe they were loud shouts) that tanks are doing some massive damage. I have tanked a few instances as Prot, and am getting equal or better DPS than as Ret. Its okay, though. Burst damage is still high, and should be fun to level with.

If Ret DPS is a challenge at 85, it will be a welcome change :)

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By: Morphius /patch-4-0-3a-dps-concerns/comment-page-1/#comment-7096 Morphius Sun, 28 Nov 2010 20:33:21 +0000 /?p=3462#comment-7096 I've completely given up retribution on my paladin. I tried dps gear with a shield, tank spec, and two-set tank t10, and I rose from a fail 13k dps on bosses to about 20k. Avenger's shield crits for 16k's, and with shield of the righteous critting for 54k, I don't know what Blizztard had in mind when nerfing ret, but apparently, prot > ret on the dps charts. Can anyone confirm said increase of dps in prot? Or am I the lucky individual? :o I’ve completely given up retribution on my paladin. I tried dps gear with a shield, tank spec, and two-set tank t10, and I rose from a fail 13k dps on bosses to about 20k. Avenger’s shield crits for 16k’s, and with shield of the righteous critting for 54k, I don’t know what Blizztard had in mind when nerfing ret, but apparently, prot > ret on the dps charts.

Can anyone confirm said increase of dps in prot? Or am I the lucky individual? :o

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By: Galyo /patch-4-0-3a-dps-concerns/comment-page-1/#comment-7077 Galyo Sun, 28 Nov 2010 11:41:11 +0000 /?p=3462#comment-7077 Imo, Paladin has taken a huge nerf with 4.0.3a, tought like Khor that Exorcism buff can handle all other nerfs, but it don't. I'm actually full BiS Except 1 trinket(Deathbringer 264 and not277), here is my armory link : Pre 4.0.3a, I was like, 21kdps~ on boss like Saurfang/Festergut, 17-18k on LK 25 Hm, Last week, I never go trought 16k with a perfect spell rotation, it really pissed me off. But I still believe that this is only for 2 weeks, and that Inquisition will rebuff our DPS up, but I'm still worried... And to talk about DS, Yes, I agree 100%, it's useless... I'm a big fan of pvp/arena, and I'm afraid of what Ret pally will be in 85 Arena... Feel like I'll have to go prot in pvp è_é (Sorry for my english ! :p) Imo, Paladin has taken a huge nerf with 4.0.3a, tought like Khor that Exorcism buff can handle all other nerfs, but it don’t.

I’m actually full BiS Except 1 trinket(Deathbringer 264 and not277), here is my armory link : Pre 4.0.3a, I was like, 21kdps~ on boss like Saurfang/Festergut, 17-18k on LK 25 Hm, Last week, I never go trought 16k with a perfect spell rotation, it really pissed me off. But I still believe that this is only for 2 weeks, and that Inquisition will rebuff our DPS up, but I’m still worried…

And to talk about DS, Yes, I agree 100%, it’s useless…

I’m a big fan of pvp/arena, and I’m afraid of what Ret pally will be in 85 Arena… Feel like I’ll have to go prot in pvp è_é

(Sorry for my english ! :p)

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By: Alastrinas /patch-4-0-3a-dps-concerns/comment-page-1/#comment-7076 Alastrinas Sun, 28 Nov 2010 11:21:56 +0000 /?p=3462#comment-7076 I was quite surprised to see the actual dps drop. Prior to 4.0.3a my dps in VOA 25 was approx 10.5 - 12.8k per boss - with the ice boss peaking at about 12.8k dps. I currently have only 264 level gear and was competing quite well. Same gear, same gems, same enchants and a drop of 2 - 3k easy. Looking forward to level 85, cause now rogues have over us. I was quite surprised to see the actual dps drop.
Prior to 4.0.3a my dps in VOA 25 was approx 10.5 – 12.8k per boss – with the ice boss peaking at about 12.8k dps.
I currently have only 264 level gear and was competing quite well.
Same gear, same gems, same enchants and a drop of 2 – 3k easy.
Looking forward to level 85, cause now rogues have over us.

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By: Sith /patch-4-0-3a-dps-concerns/comment-page-1/#comment-7063 Sith Sun, 28 Nov 2010 00:00:40 +0000 /?p=3462#comment-7063 It seem like were going back to a utility instead of a dps class. It seem like were going back to a utility instead of a dps class.

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By: Lightadam /patch-4-0-3a-dps-concerns/comment-page-1/#comment-7058 Lightadam Sat, 27 Nov 2010 20:02:53 +0000 /?p=3462#comment-7058 i just wonder, what was the reason to nerf CS? they didn't mention it in the patch notes but it's already received a nerf. 1-2 weeks before they buffed it, now they nerf it, why? what's the trouble that Paladin class causing to keep them missing with it? it's not like we were on the top Dps anyway. how sad a well geared retribution paladin can be (25icc heroics) when a DK or Warrior alts with mostly justice points gear out damage him? i just wonder, what was the reason to nerf CS? they didn’t mention it in the patch notes but it’s already received a nerf. 1-2 weeks before they buffed it, now they nerf it, why? what’s the trouble that Paladin class causing to keep them missing with it? it’s not like we were on the top Dps anyway.

how sad a well geared retribution paladin can be (25icc heroics) when a DK or Warrior alts with mostly justice points gear out damage him?

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By: Cloudruler /patch-4-0-3a-dps-concerns/comment-page-1/#comment-7050 Cloudruler Sat, 27 Nov 2010 14:33:00 +0000 /?p=3462#comment-7050 Just an edit to my above comment keep in mind on the saurfang fight he is undead so Exo is a 100% crit rate there. Just an edit to my above comment keep in mind on the saurfang fight he is undead so Exo is a 100% crit rate there.

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By: Empact /patch-4-0-3a-dps-concerns/comment-page-1/#comment-7048 Empact Sat, 27 Nov 2010 14:30:03 +0000 /?p=3462#comment-7048 Yeah I'm pretty bummed about the drop in DPS. I am getting out dps'd by people by 1k-1.5k, and I'm almost all BIS gear. Le Sigh. Yeah I’m pretty bummed about the drop in DPS. I am getting out dps’d by people by 1k-1.5k, and I’m almost all BIS gear. Le Sigh.

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By: Cloudruler /patch-4-0-3a-dps-concerns/comment-page-1/#comment-7046 Cloudruler Sat, 27 Nov 2010 13:58:40 +0000 /?p=3462#comment-7046 What i find really sad is this..... i tried out the Exodin "Exo as prime dps in a holy build" and was out dpsing rets in 5 mans....... and i was still healing as well. Had another test it out on Saurfang in icc..... yep 10K dps as a holy pally. EL OH EL! While this im sure will get nerfed i feel something very wrong when a holy pally casting HS and Exo can come close to a ret in dmg. (those 5 mans while i was healing and casting Exo pulled 5K) What i find really sad is this….. i tried out the Exodin “Exo as prime dps in a holy build” and was out dpsing rets in 5 mans……. and i was still healing as well. Had another test it out on Saurfang in icc….. yep 10K dps as a holy pally. EL OH EL! While this im sure will get nerfed i feel something very wrong when a holy pally casting HS and Exo can come close to a ret in dmg. (those 5 mans while i was healing and casting Exo pulled 5K)

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