Comments on: Future Value of Mastery /future-value-of-mastery/ A WoW Retribution Paladin guide with ret pally gear, leveling, pvp, raiding and stats. Retribution Paladins for World of Warcraft. Sun, 18 Sep 2011 17:18:29 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: kraig /future-value-of-mastery/comment-page-1/#comment-12353 kraig Tue, 22 Mar 2011 06:25:58 +0000 /?p=3930#comment-12353 Does haste effect how well mastery works. i have a ret pally with hit capped haste 12 crit 11.15 mastery 16.38 and expertise is 27 Does haste effect how well mastery works. i have a ret pally with hit capped haste 12 crit 11.15 mastery 16.38 and expertise is 27

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By: Boogieknight /future-value-of-mastery/comment-page-1/#comment-10189 Boogieknight Thu, 27 Jan 2011 10:45:44 +0000 /?p=3930#comment-10189 Assuming Mastery does what it's supposed to do, when would be a good time to use Mark of Khardros? I'm assuming that we would link it with Zealotry to get the most damage from the successive Templar's Verdicts. Would this be correct? Assuming Mastery does what it’s supposed to do, when would be a good time to use Mark of Khardros? I’m assuming that we would link it with Zealotry to get the most damage from the successive Templar’s Verdicts. Would this be correct?

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By: Kimina /future-value-of-mastery/comment-page-1/#comment-9641 Kimina Mon, 17 Jan 2011 15:53:29 +0000 /?p=3930#comment-9641 A major thing to consider with Heart of Solace & Right Eye of Rajh. Heart of Solace is chance on hit where Right Eye of Rajh is chance on crit. During my last kill on Magmaw World of Logs recorded the following information... Heartened (Heart of Solace) 5 (Procs) 100.2 (Uptime) 19.3 % # Eye of Doom(Right Eye of Rajh) 8 (Procs) 80.4 (Uptime) 15.5 % # This is a pretty solid representation of trinket proc's. Magmaw is a stand still and dps fight for melee or at least my role in this raid was. This was on the successful encounter and I managed just over 16K DPS in an 8 1/2 minute encounter. Looking back at similar length attempts resulting in wipes Heart of Solace consistently proc'd less, but produce more then Right Eye of Rajh. A major thing to consider with Heart of Solace & Right Eye of Rajh.

Heart of Solace is chance on hit where Right Eye of Rajh is chance on crit. During my last kill on Magmaw World of Logs recorded the following information…

Heartened (Heart of Solace) 5 (Procs) 100.2 (Uptime) 19.3 % #
Eye of Doom(Right Eye of Rajh) 8 (Procs) 80.4 (Uptime) 15.5 % #

This is a pretty solid representation of trinket proc’s. Magmaw is a stand still and dps fight for melee or at least my role in this raid was. This was on the successful encounter and I managed just over 16K DPS in an 8 1/2 minute encounter.

Looking back at similar length attempts resulting in wipes Heart of Solace consistently proc’d less, but produce more then Right Eye of Rajh.

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By: Khor /future-value-of-mastery/comment-page-1/#comment-9590 Khor Sat, 15 Jan 2011 20:26:03 +0000 /?p=3930#comment-9590 @ Soubi - As some have mentioned above, Mastery has already gotten a nerf. This devalues it slightly, aligning it more closely to crit and haste. The lists will be changed once 4.0.6 goes live. Before then, anything could change and the lists would be very inaccurate. So, until we see the changes live, we stick with the current lists, because on the servers right now, that actually reflects current stat priorities. @ Soubi – As some have mentioned above, Mastery has already gotten a nerf. This devalues it slightly, aligning it more closely to crit and haste. The lists will be changed once 4.0.6 goes live. Before then, anything could change and the lists would be very inaccurate. So, until we see the changes live, we stick with the current lists, because on the servers right now, that actually reflects current stat priorities.

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By: Lykaon /future-value-of-mastery/comment-page-1/#comment-9587 Lykaon Sat, 15 Jan 2011 13:28:48 +0000 /?p=3930#comment-9587 The nerf to our Mastery to provide less damage per point is significant in my opinion only because Mastery is already so close to Crit and Haste in terms of value (based on the testing above by myself and Varrex). Honestly, I'd love a world where the only reason to reforge would be to get your hit and exp caps. Equally weighted stats seems like ideal design to me. The nerf to our Mastery to provide less damage per point is significant in my opinion only because Mastery is already so close to Crit and Haste in terms of value (based on the testing above by myself and Varrex).

Honestly, I’d love a world where the only reason to reforge would be to get your hit and exp caps. Equally weighted stats seems like ideal design to me.

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By: Bugs /future-value-of-mastery/comment-page-1/#comment-9586 Bugs Sat, 15 Jan 2011 12:26:28 +0000 /?p=3930#comment-9586 Apperently this has now been nerfed: Hand of Light (Mastery): A percentage of the damage done by Templar's Verdict, Crusader Strike, and Divine Storm is done as additional Holy damage. This Mastery now grants a 2.1% increase to Holy damage per mastery, down from 2.5%. Apperently this has now been nerfed:

Hand of Light (Mastery): A percentage of the damage done by Templar’s Verdict, Crusader Strike, and Divine Storm is done as additional Holy damage. This Mastery now grants a 2.1% increase to Holy damage per mastery, down from 2.5%.

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By: Soubi /future-value-of-mastery/comment-page-1/#comment-9585 Soubi Sat, 15 Jan 2011 11:55:56 +0000 /?p=3930#comment-9585 I have one question here. Khor, when are you going to update BiS gear since mastery got higher priority? Thanks. I have one question here. Khor, when are you going to update BiS gear since mastery got higher priority?
Thanks.

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By: Varrex /future-value-of-mastery/comment-page-1/#comment-9573 Varrex Fri, 14 Jan 2011 09:46:21 +0000 /?p=3930#comment-9573 There will be a new meta with the patch as well as changing the req for the current meta = more blues then reds will change to 2 reds. On my personal test I found a 1.5-2.5k dps increase leaving most of my stats the same and found a loss when reforging everything to mastery (all though the holy damaged did hit much harder) as the cs time was cut drastically, the lack of haste was horrid and HP suffered as well with the much slower rotation. My advice would be to keep the stats equal as suggested above or stack haste for a much smoother rotation... The stats seem to be fairly equal in value... Link to armory http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/stormscale/varrex/advanced There will be a new meta with the patch as well as changing the req for the current meta = more blues then reds will change to 2 reds.

On my personal test I found a 1.5-2.5k dps increase leaving most of my stats the same and found a loss when reforging everything to mastery (all though the holy damaged did hit much harder) as the cs time was cut drastically, the lack of haste was horrid and HP suffered as well with the much slower rotation.

My advice would be to keep the stats equal as suggested above or stack haste for a much smoother rotation… The stats seem to be fairly equal in value…

Link to armory http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/stormscale/varrex/advanced

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By: Lykaon /future-value-of-mastery/comment-page-1/#comment-9560 Lykaon Fri, 14 Jan 2011 00:26:20 +0000 /?p=3930#comment-9560 I'm pretty sure the newly announced Reverberating Shadowspirit Diamond will be our new one. I’m pretty sure the newly announced Reverberating Shadowspirit Diamond will be our new one.

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By: Rolann /future-value-of-mastery/comment-page-1/#comment-9559 Rolann Thu, 13 Jan 2011 23:57:42 +0000 /?p=3930#comment-9559 Khor, I like this change, but I was wondering if this would change our META Gem? I know u have Chaotic Shadowspirit listed as the best, but I dont want to sacrifice my reds for the 3% crit dam. So as of now I have Destructive Shadowspirit Diamond, it only requires 2 reds. But with the change in the lin up will Fleet Shadowspirit Diamond be considered? I know it requires 2 yellow, but that is better than more blue than red, Im just saying. Feed back please Khor,

I like this change, but I was wondering if this would change our META Gem? I know u have Chaotic Shadowspirit listed as the best, but I dont want to sacrifice my reds for the 3% crit dam. So as of now I have Destructive Shadowspirit Diamond, it only requires 2 reds. But with the change in the lin up will Fleet Shadowspirit Diamond be considered? I know it requires 2 yellow, but that is better than more blue than red, Im just saying. Feed back please

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