Comments on: Deathbringer’s Will and Needle Encrusted Scorpion Re-designed

By: Dahkness

Dahkness — Thu, 28 Oct 2010 18:18:48 +0000

With respects to DBW, provided that my data is accurate, for paladins, you will get one of three different procs. You can get 600 STR, 600 Haste or 600 Crit rating. I don’t know if the chance for each individual proc is a 1/3 chance or not so here is where it gets iffy. With current 5% increase from mark/kings you are looking at 1260 AP when the str proc is up. As that is our best stat over the other 2 I only posted that information. The proc lasts 30 seconds on a 90 second ICD, with RNG because it doesn’t proc instantly it’s around a 30% uptime as opposed to 33%, this is pretty standard for most trinkets with respects to proc rate uptime.

With STS from RS, you get a little more base stats which is crit. As for the proc however, you get 1304 AP which is roughly equivalent to 620 STR. This, unlike DBW is the only proc. It lasts for 15 seconds with a 45 second ICD, and once again has an approximate up-time of 30%.

I have yet to get the STS on regular RS but I did pass up the opportunity to get H DBW as I feel based on the calculations that it is still superior. For those who are wondering about the differences between DBW and (H)DBW the proc is 700 as opposed to 600.

Hope this clears up some questions.

~Dahkness Doomhammer

By: Akis

Akis — Sat, 23 Oct 2010 13:13:14 +0000

Got the same prob as Fulgora , i got soft haste rating cap , and i did get that trinket yesterday should i replace mirror of truth or keep it for the 1k ap proc ?

By: Fulgora

Fulgora — Mon, 18 Oct 2010 20:33:38 +0000

Is NES still considered a good trinket if we are at our soft haste cap? Compared, to lets say, Mirror of Truth that procs +1000 AP?

By: Sky

Sky — Mon, 18 Oct 2010 16:48:26 +0000

Why is STS not mentioned in this post as it was also changed and is an even better ret trinket than DBW at the moment.

By: Preyth

Preyth — Mon, 18 Oct 2010 10:56:55 +0000

I had my chance a few minutes ago to get the Needle Encrusted Scorpion from Forge of Souls heroic. Unfortunately I guess since pugs are so used to DEing everything I needed on it naturally everyone else in the group (all whom had no use for it) needed on it and I did not get it. :\

By: Khor

Khor — Fri, 15 Oct 2010 03:30:45 +0000

@ Ashure – I am right there with ya. Since even the 10% Judgement glyph isn’t BiS, why in the world would the T10 bonus be legit? This is one of the many things I am trying to hammer out for us. When I get concrete information, I’ll definitely post it up

By: Ashure

Ashure — Thu, 14 Oct 2010 20:16:00 +0000

Khor,

I have been seriously thinking about our t10 bonus’s and really feel that our 4 set is really not that strong since judge was nerfed in damage. and can see using 2 set, but getting 277 (icc 25 heroic) gear to replace some pieces. I think the stats on the higher 277 from our 264 sanc pieces would make a better punch.

On a test dummy i have switched out one piece to brake up my 4 set and i did more damage out put w/o 4 set every time.

just wanted some info on how you feel.

Thanks again for your time.

Ashure of Darkspear

By: Mo

Mo — Thu, 14 Oct 2010 19:04:12 +0000

Any idea if normal DBW outperforms Tiny Abom or H WFS?

By: Hudewey

Hudewey — Thu, 14 Oct 2010 18:37:12 +0000

Khor, great site & info on the patch. What changes for ret pallys. Are you using Seal of Truth mostly? or Righteousness?

And, i have 4T10. But, the raging behemouth shoulders i have are much better than the lightsworn lvl251. Are the bonuses worth keeping all 4T10 on? My legs are LPainful Death & probably won’t switch those to the Lightsworn. Looking forward to your updates. Thanks.

By: Khor

Khor — Thu, 14 Oct 2010 17:44:12 +0000

@ Gilford, I believe 2 T9 and 2 T10 is still the way to go until 4T10. The set bonuses are flat damage buffs, but I believe the 2 T9 is still worth keeping. I’ll research that and make note of it. (I have lots of research to do, so many changes!)