Procs (from weapons, like Brynntroll and Shadowmourne) tend to make the numbers a bit fuzzier than usual. And there’s no telling what’ll happen when Inquisition is thrown into the mix.

Going back to sulking now.

Assuming you’ll be using each move by itself, Judge will statistically generate 2.8 HP per minute. Exo, assuming a 3 second swing timer on auto attacks, will be procced by AoW roughly 4 times per minute, with a holy power proc rate of 1.4 per minute. HW (Holy Wrath) can be cast 4 times per minute, with a proc rate of 1.4 HP per minute. Assuming no haste, CS can be cast roughly 13 times per minute, guaranteeing 13 HP per minute. Assuming no timer conflicts, you will gain (2.8+1.4+1.4+13)= 18.6 HP per Minute. That would leave either 6.2 TV casts per minute with 3 HP stacks, or 9.3 with 2 stacks.

My paladin’s full stack TVs were hitting for roughly 5.6k normal, 11k crit (Meaning my weapon damage is measured at roughly (5600/2.25) = 2489), with a 31% chance to crit and the additional 12% to crit from talents, for 44% chance to crit with TV. Statistically speaking, and assuming non-discrete numbers, with three stacks of HP my TV should crit 2.728 times per minute, normal hit 3.472 times, and do roughly 49,451.2 damage per minute.

With 2 stacks of HP, TV should crit 4.092 times, and hit 5.208 times. Given the multiplier 110% for two stacks of HP a piece, and assuming the crits are around double damage, this would equate to roughly 36665.9568 damage per minute.

Given all the above assumptions, 3 stack TV is still more dps than 2 stacks. However, these results are far removed from practical-use data. I was testing out 2 stacks vs 3 stacks on the dummies in Orgrimmar, and I saw a very minimal dps increase when I used 2 stack TV. This brings me to my second point, which has significantly less mathematical analysis. I seem to waste holy power due to being unable to divide my attention to the three or four places on the screen that could indicate my procs. Using TV at 2 holy power stacks not only allows me to luckily discover my Hand of Light has procced (which hits as if I had 3 stacks and leaves my HP up), but also gives me a 1 holy power barrier from wasting a divine purpose proc. I don’t know what other people’s experiences amount to with regard to this debate, but I think, in terms of real world application, 2 stacks may be marginally better than 3 stacks.

Definitely a ton of new changes, and I’m anxious to see how the stat priorities evolve.

The one thing I am still researching is the 2HP vs 3HP Templar’s Verdict arguement, and which will yield more DPS. The topic is evolving on EJ and other forums, so we’ll see if it has any merit.

We arent going to see many changes to these talents and their damage.

why you might ask? Because GC even said that they arent balancing damage around level 80 but level 85. So the mechanics that you see here are not likely to change because we will get inquisition later and our damage goes up… but not like some of the other classes that are currently doing 2x more damage than us.

certain things that I noticed about your spec that will help with your damage.

Seals of the pure is 15% more to just seal proc damgage, but that’s for only one ability that is doing a lot less damage. Seals have been nerfed so hard that this damage increase is almost useless, while 12% crit to Templar’s Verdict and Judgement would seem more… effective. Also haste from talents and gear affect Crusader strike not the outside mechanics, so using 3 points in Judgments of the pure for 9% haste instead of 6% haste will be another 3% faster cd on Crusader strike.

I also found out that you would need 1340 haste rating to hit the necessary amount of haste to drop CS to 3 seconds. This is doable just means you need haste in just about every piece of gear (which is easier to do since arp = haste now). If i converted all my gems to str+haste and got the haste trinket from frost emblems i would be able to obtain enough haste. My attack power might drop like a rock but if you look at what is affected by haste its almost the same as str.

Haste
- melee white hits which in turn affects seals, AoW – more exorcism, Hand of Light – more Templars Verdict.

- shorter Crusader Strike cd, meaning you can get more Holy power more often

- You will not have free ‘time’ with nothing to do

- Seals of the pure’s (dot) which does considerable damage since it now crits, and scales with haste.

@ Handera – We still have our cleanse, but it only removes poisons and diseases.

@ Xav – The improved graphics are a part fo the Cata xpac, so we won’t see it in the PTR.