Ret Paladin Ashen Verdict Ring – Strength or Agility

For Retribution Paladins, the Ashen Verdict reputation ring is a huge upgrade, and easy acquisition.  However, choosing between the strength and agility versions has proven to be a topic of debate ever since the rings were released.  For you Retribution Paladins out there, if you are having trouble deciding which ring to take, hopefully this will help steer you in the right direction.

First, let’s take a look at both Ashen Verdict rings:

Both have the same amount of base hit rating and crit rating, as well as the same equip bonus and gem slot with slot bonus.  Where they differ is in the +agility and +attack power vs. +strength.  Comparing these differences results in a very minor 15-30 DPS difference, with the agility Ashen Band of Endless Vengeance coming out on top.

My own testing (using Recount) puts it as a 16 DPS loss to equip the strengh ring with my gear set-up, and I verified that on the Elitist Jerks forums, as  well as checking multiple sources online.  It’s hard picking out the fact from fiction, though looking through other players combat logs and spreadsheets confirms the agility ring being a larger DPS boost.  It appears the majority of Ret Paladins confirm this.

In all honesty, it’s not going to make much of a difference in your raiding numbers.  You are essentially trading crit (about 1.5%) on the agility ring for attack power (about 80-90 AP with BoM) on the strength ring.  It really comes down to your personal preference.

All that said, as of right now, if you want the best available ring, the agility Ashen Verdict Ashen Band of Vengeance is your best option.

Comments

  1. Mungus says:

    Before reading this, but after other comment on this site, I swapped the strength ring for the agility last Thursday before raiding ICC. I can’t be quantitative; and I did make a couple of other minor tweaks, but on the whole I was left with the impression that I’d gained a significant amount of dps from the swap.

  2. Thoriangrey says:

    Is the agility boost only true for this ring or alone? The question being, if I swapped both this ring as well as my other epic for ones with some major agility/atk power boost, would it be more viable for dps than gearing strength alone?

  3. Thoriangrey says:

    I apologize, please strike out the “or”

  4. LOLRet says:

    I understand the +agi ring’s stats makes it the best ring for ret pallys, however I like my consistant pure +str compares to the crit chance that +agi brings me. Also I am sitting at +40% crit chance unbuffed which to me i feel it’s enough, but that is just me tho.

  5. Amy says:

    Before reading this, but after other comment on this site, I swapped the strength ring for the agility last Thursday before raiding ICC. I can’t be quantitative; and I did make a couple of other minor tweaks, but on the whole I was left with the impression that I’d gained a significant amount of dps from the swap.

  6. Richard says:

    Before reading this, but after other comment on this site, I swapped the strength ring for the agility last Thursday before raiding ICC. I can’t be quantitative; and I did make a couple of other minor tweaks, but on the whole I was left with the impression that I’d gained a significant amount of dps from the swap.

  7. Simon says:

    I apologize, please strike out the “or”

  8. Pimpmybubble AKA EJ says:

    Well i was using agility ring from the start since im an end game raider and i noticed that it gives more dps if you have good gear for me Agility>Str ring for like 100 dps

  9. Duncan says:

    is this also true in pvp?

  10. Khor says:

    In PvP you want the strength version hands down.

  11. Darthal says:

    People have different combinations of rings. If you have the agility ring, is it better to have a second agility ring or a strength ring? If the case calls for one of each, i have the strength ring with an agility ring off marrowgar and it seems to do a great job. Any thoughts?

  12. Lyreth says:

    @LOLRet

    It does make a massive difference. And I’m sitting at +48% crit unbuffed(in 25ICC I am at 58%). If you really want the best combination. It’s Skeleton Lord’s Circle(25HM Gunship) + Ashen Band of Endless Vengeance. That is THE BiS combo for retadin rings. Now it all depends on your other gear setups, but know what you are looking for, know your best in slot. Don’t roll on gear just because its a quick upgrade. Keep yourself hit and expertise capped, and stack strength and crit as much as possible. It makes you realize when after Festergut you check the meter and you are at 13-14k dps.

  13. Odesius says:

    Retlulret comments are long winded, but I agree.
    We have 2 RET pallies in ICC25 competing/comparing numbers, and I have to say you are 100% correct; especially the 5/30 bosses comment.

    I have been in the other camp, including RAWR being my bible, but am jumping over to the truckload of Strength camp.
    I even passed on the heroic Winding Sheet cause I had the heroic Shadowvault Slayer’s Cloak and am now kicking myself.

    Only question for Retlulret, you referred to haste pot for STR RET, you talking about using Elixir of Lightning Speed over Endless Rage?

    In the process of correcting my other gear:
    http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Lightbringer&cn=Odesius&gn=Evitus+Stultus

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